102 comments on “SALUSA: As you can see, there are two main schools of thought that people follow, one supposes that life will carry on as usual and somehow get past the present problems, and the other sees immense change and the restoration of people’s rights.

  1. Dear SaLuSa,

    In my opinion, for what it’s worth, some of the issues that need to be resolved here, to move ahead with our development into an extraterrestrial civilization, and a normalization of relations with good ETs, are the criminal acts of aggression based in political system intolerance, that there is evidence that some ETs may be contributing to, that is fueling war and conflict here, the criminality, human and civil rights violations contained in some versions of your “divine” plan, and the unreasonable, antisocial behavior of some of your purported earth allies who are impeding my contact initiative and efforts to get the above stated problems resolved.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  2. Dear SaLuSa,

    I’d like to help you with a reality check, according to recent polling 85% to 95% of the people on this planet think that 2012 is going to be another y2k type non event. I’m part of the 85% to 95%.

    “One in seven thinks end of world is coming: poll

    May 4 – According to a poll conducted by Ipsos Global Public Affairs, one-seventh of the world’s population believes that the world could end in their lifetime. The poll included 16,262 people from all over the world. Many responders thought that there was some validity to the 2012 Mayan calendar issue, while others think an apocalypse could come through the hands of God, a natural disaster, or a political event,
    Only six percent of French residents believing in an impending Armageddon in their lifetime, compared to 22 percent in Turkey and the United States.
    Source: Reuters”

    Source – http://www.bible-prophecy.com/2012/2012-1.htm

    Yes the Mayan calendar has some validity in that it correlates with the precession of the equinoxes, but other than that it doesn’t mean much.

    The reason for these poll numbers is that there’s no credible evidence or sound science to support most of what you’re writing about in terms of an end times, dimensional shift, ascension, mass arrests, interim governments, etc..

    What people are interested in is our development into an extraterrestrial civilization by normalizing relations with good ETs in a non disruptive manner. This is what I’m working on helping to bring about.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  3. Dear SaLuSa,

    From my perspective, you’re a glass half empty and half full in the sense that you’re talking about extended life spans and the elimination of war, poverty and pollution here, with the freedom to safely travel the universe. So in that respect you’ve grown as a person since I started writing to you. When you were focused a lot more on negativity like catastrophic earth changes, and largely avoided humanitarian issues like medicine and peace.

    However, you’re still talking about an end times, population relocations, a disruptive dimensional shift and issues that certainly appear to be fraudulent like mass arrests and interim governments. For which there’s no proof, and the proof that is available indicates that these issues are false.

    So in my opinion you’re improving and still have work to do to get to the stage where a consensual normalization of relations with our civilization can occur. Peace is a fulcrum issue, that unlike ascension, can tip our reality into a new age of our becoming an extraterrestrial civilization now. So my suggestion is to continue to work on that, and once it’s attained, the positive elements of the PTB here that I’m part of, will work on completing our transition into the interstellar community without the negative issues like forced relocation and disruption occurring, that you’re still talking about.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  4. Dear Vashtar and SaLuSa,

    The vision expressed in the love and light, light worker, star seed, light warrior material involving mass arrests, end times, interim governments, a dimensional shift and related topics unsupported and disproven by science and evidence is fraud and science fiction. Other related unproven, though not currently disproven topics like ascension, are at best metaphysics and new age philosophy, and a lot of it is probably false as well.

    Going on and on about issues like mass arrests, a dimensional shift, interim governments and an end times that clearly aren’t happening, and are highly unlikely to happen, is not helping us to develop into an extraterrestrial civilization, or normalize relations with good ETs, and that’s the direction that we should be going.

    Your Friend,

    SC

    • It’s common for the love and light, light worker, star seed, light warrior sites promoting doom, gloom, and end times material invovling a highly disruptive future to attract people suffering from serious psychiatric problems as the following article demonstrates. People need hope for a better future and and there’s no need for any type of disruption when we can have all of the benifits of becoming an extraterrstrial civilizationwithout a lot of problems if we manage this process properly:

      “Suicidal tendancies/threats/threads
      Posted by GoldWing on May 18, 2012 at 11:26pm in Network News & Announcements
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      I wanted to address this issue in tandem with the admin team as there have been alot of threads lately stating “I’m going to kill myself” etc. While we certainly want to make it clear we extend our love/thoughts and assistance to all our members and humanity we have to tread a careful line also that we cannot give advice to those in serious depression who may need help in their local environment from healers/doctors/spiritual groups/professionals.

      We would ask all members who are in serious need of assistance to please seek help, offline and online, via on site please email trusted friends, members, admin, versus starting a publicly viewed thread stating ” I’m going to kill myself, I can’t take it anymore ” and we don’t say this out of callousness or disinterest or lack of love but as a reminder not to ‘post emotionally’ as many many others read your words and could take action in a down mode themselves and feel a false sense of commrodarie that is akind to a suicide pact, something we will not nor would ever promote, endorse or encourage.

      Life is precious, we didn’t come to quit, we came to overcome, to love and learn and yes we all have gone through trials and tribulations and we certainly want to know we are there for each other. No judgement of anyone who’s ever started a thread on these terms is intended or inferred but rather we are humbly asking that such extremely serious matters be dealt with seriously.

      Many question our sanity on a regular basis as we all know, numerous threads on suicide only deepen that belief, they don’t exactly shout ‘hey listen to us, we have it figured out’. While we absolutely do want to make it clear it is important we support each other we also must always remember service to others means self reflection in our words, our deeds and actions.

      Anyone seriously struggling with depression and feelings of suicide, please seek help immediately as while we can offer our love, support and encouragement we are not there by your side in physicality in most cases to assist you and we often aren’t qualified to give you full assistance via online forums.

      Thank you for your understanding on this matter and please know no offense is intended by this posting.

      Namaste

      Admin Team”

      Source – http://www.starseeds.net/forum/topics/suicidal-tendancies-threats-threads?xg_source=activity

    • In this video Sheldan Nidle is assisting that the whole PAO/GFL end times scenario is going to happen by the end of 2012, as is the Mike Quinsey/SaLuSa material. I listened to the video and he references the financial sector resignations, which all look pretty normal to me, as proof that the end times are coming. 2012 is almost 1/2 over, and nothing has happened, and there’s no credible proof that I’ve seen that anything is going to happen. I don’t think that this is how the new age or disclosure are going to manifest. What I’m working on in terms of a normalization of relations with good ETs/EDs, without any disruption, makes more sense in my opinion:

  5. Dear Vashtar,

    Some of this weeks PAO update actually makes some sense, like the part about advances in electronic technology being able to expand consciousness, now that I agree with.

    There are a number of people and governments working to bring NATO members to heel, so that we can get the wars stopped, and I’m one of them.

    I genuinely believe that if you’re the real deal, that we can work together to bring about our planet’s development into an extraterrestrial civilization in a safe reasonable manner.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

  6. Dear SaLuSa,

    I think that you are out of touch with reality. There is no basis in science or evidence for much of what you are witting about. You can write about metaphysics and new age philosophy, but it’s misrepresentation to claim that there is an end times occurring, time is speeding up, and a dimensional shift is occurring as part of a planetary and mass ascension process, when there is no basis in science or legitimate evidence to support these contentions.

    There are no credible reports of investigations or grand jury proceedings for any type of mass arrests. Much of your writings come across as very shallow and unfounded. It reminds me of “light workers” claiming falsely to be more evolved, and possessing expanded consciousness as compared to the rest of society. But when you try to get them to justify their claims, they’re unwilling or unable to explain themselves, and attempt to blame shift away from their own lack of descriptive capabilities, or unwillingness to elaborate on what they’re experiencing, because they don’t want to be committed to a psychiatric facility for observation. Or be accused of sub standard cognitive descriptive capabilities. So they resort to arrogance and condescension in an attempt to divert attention away from their own short comings.

    If there really was such a thing as an ascension process, time speeding up, a dimensional shift, and a progressing end times. And you are some type of higher dimensional being with expanded consciousness. You should be able to describe what these issues consist of, and why we should believe you, but you don’t. As a result of your failures in these areas, you’re coming across as nonsensical and misleading. So my suggestion is to make an effort to explain yourself properly if you can. Or refrain from making claims that all of the available science and evidence indicates are false. So that you stop making yourself look bad.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  7. Dear SaLuSa,

    It seems like you are writing about a different planet than this one, because except for war ending, which people like me have worked long and hard to bring about, all of the other topics that you address like the end times, a dimensional shift, and ascension, are fiction with no basis in science or evidence.

    Outside of a tiny fraction of much less than 1% of the population, nobody is interested in, or even aware of ascension. What most people want is better health, longer lives, an end to pollution and poverty, and the freedom to travel the stars. If we encounter ascended planets and people, some people here may want to move to them, or ascend individually. And maybe over time that’s the direction that our civilization will take, and maybe it isn’t. We’ll have to see what we find after we become an extraterrestrial civilization ourselves.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  8. Dear SaLuSa,

    If there’s evidence of an impending dimensional shift, based in science and judicial evidence, where “low vibe” people will be exiled from our planet, I haven’t seen it.

    What we need to progress, is to become an extraterrestrial civilization in a safe manner, where we can learn from experience.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  9. Dear Vashtar,

    This weeks PAO update is a broken record of unverifiable and nonsensical claims that have never borne themselves out. It’s the same drone week after week, month after month, year after year. From a man who is purportedly paid by the U.S. Government to produce this stuff.

    I don’t see our future playing out in the manner described. Though I’m interested on putting something together that will result in our development into an extraterrestrial civilization in a safe progressive manner.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

  10. Dear Vashtar,

    I read this weeks PAO update with strong skepticism, because not only is there no credible proof for any of it publicly or privately available that I’ve seen, but there’s also no rational explanation of how any of it will be implemented. It all sounds like fantasy that Mr. Nidle is being paid to produce by the U.S. government, if the testimony that I obtained first hand, as part of my investigation of your transportation offer, from someone who should know, is true. Unlike your average new age enthusiast, I do the leg work and meet and talk with people. I’m also certified, though not currently licensed, to do this type of work in New York State as a private security officer. So I know what I’m doing.

    You will be given the opportunity to make good on your offer, when I’m ready to close on your contact offer. The LZ prep is complete, I’m working on strengthening my ability to deal with contingent liabilities, like getting shot at and other problems, in the event the contact initiative completes successfully.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

  11. Dear SaLuSa,

    We have certain commonly held transcendent values and moors that we have developed on this planet over the last 10,000 plus years as we’ve built this civilization from scratch with our bare hands that work for us. I can tell you from experience that some of what you’re suggesting as the path that you’d like to see our future go isn’t going to be acceptable here, you will be told thanks, but no thanks, as we say here.

    At the top of the list of things that will be rejected is your ascension process, or at least the way that you’re talking about going about it. We will accept your help in some areas, such as avoiding nuclear war, war in general, and damaging the planet with pollution. But there are limits to how much we’re going to allow you to involve yourself in our affairs when your efforts are contrary to the direction that we’re planning to take this civilization.

    Which is developing into an extraterrestrial civilization on our terms as equals, not on your terms, which are clearly unacceptable. There will be no exile or genocide, extinction of our species in our current form on our home planet, mass landings or unchallenged fly overs. What we want is the wars ended and the quarantine, which replaced the sequestration, ended. So that we can travel freely off planet and import safe vetted medical and industrial technology, including starships. So that we can close the technology gap with you, including in security.

    It’s called the golden rule, something that you’d be well advised to give some thought to. Because my assumption is that you’d react in much the same way that we are, if you were faced with the same circumstances as we are. So you shouldn’t be surprised if you’re running into he types of objections that you’re hearing from me, and I assume many others as well. You’re the ones creating dissension and friction with your unreasonable plans and goals. The sooner that you adjust your activities to comply with our wishes on our planet, the sooner that relations with us will improve, and an effort at a normalization of relations can progress.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  12. Dear SaLuSa,

    I probably understand the judicial system, law enforcement, security and the military better than 99% of the population. It’s highly unlikely in my opinion that they’re going to support your end times plan involving the exile of our people from our home planet, the omnicide of our civilization, and our extinction as a species here. This doesn’t make them dark, it makes them moral.

    We can get medical and industrial technology from other sources besides you once the quarantine is lifted after the wars are stopped, to extend lifespans and eliminate poverty and pollution here, without all of the bad things happening to us that you write about, we don’t need to get it from you. We’re not your pets or livestock, we’re creator beings just like you. Our civilization is viable and will progress whether or not we normalize relations with you.

    There is a new age coming on this planet of our becoming an extraterrestrial civilization. Whether or not we provide you the recognition to normalize relations with you depends on your conduct. So I hope that you will mature to become reasonable participants in our future and that we can get to know each other better.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  13. Dear Extragalactic ETs,

    If there is any truth to the plans that the galactic authorities here purportedly have for our planet, I can tell you in all honesty that there are many, many, many people here who are very unhappy about them, myself included, and who reject these plans for the extinction of our species in our current form on our home planet, the unfair treatment, and exile or death threats from malicious, rude, obnoxious, insulting, immature, abrasive, inflammatory, inciteful, fanatical extremist, purported galactic reps here, the omnicide of the our civilization that we’ve built with our bare hands from scratch over thousands of years, and other reasonable objections that I don’t want to elaborate on at this time.

    The vast majority of us want a new age where we become an extraterrestrial civilization in equality with our galactic neighbors, with our rights and freedoms intact, on a poverty and pollution free planet with with extended lifespans in our current genetic form, with the freedom to safely travel the galaxy and universe on starships.

    We don’t seek aggression with our galactic neighbors, but we do demand respect and reasonable relations, otherwise there is going to be strained relations with them, which are counter productive for all concerned. I’m trying to work with them, and would like to work with them in a productive manner keeping everyone’s best interests in mind. But I also want to work and develop positive relations with you as well.

    Thank you for your kind consideration of these matters.

    Respectfully Submitted,

    SC

  14. Dear Vashtar,

    If there is more than fringe element support here for a mass landing or flyover, or proof of any type of judicial, police or military support for any type of mass arrests, I haven’t seen it. I also haven’t seen any type of study looking at the rate of resignations of people in the public and private sector financial communities showing that a few hundred resignations over the past 12 months is anything out of the ordinary. There are almost 7 billion people on the planet.

    If you want to be involved with us, my suggestion would be to normalize relations once the wars are stopped and the quarantine is lifted. I’m willing to help you and your associates with this. People can travel to your planets and see if they like it there, and maybe that will provide support for making our planet more like yours are.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

    • I think that the prospect of police and military getting involved in any type of extrajudicial arrests is pretty remote. What needs to, and is changing, is voting patterns in the war democracies which are currently, and have been for a long time, the cause of most of the strife on this planet. Away from war and unnecessary intrusion into other nations affairs. And a greater focus on domestic affairs and taking care of their own problems rather than unnecessary meddling in other people’s affairs. As well as a lack of support at the UN Security Council for unnecessary regime change wars based in fraud and political system intolerance.

      There’s also increasing realization in the new age community that a lot of the proponents of issues like nesara and similar matters like hobby constitutionalists with fraudulent pseudo “governments” have been getting it wrong for so long, that interest in these matters is fading. People know that there’s a new age coming of our developing into an extraterrestrial civilization. And they’re trying to find legitimate information about this. They can only be told stuff that doesn’t make sense, and turns out not to be true, or doesn’t come true for so long, before they turn their attention elsewhere. Most of them want legitimate proof of positive change that is going to make their lives better.

      Getting our governments to agree to our extinction as a species on our home planet, or trying to get governments in place that will facilitate this is a dead end in my opinion. Because their isn’t public support for it. Anyone who tried to run for office on a new age platform of a dimensional shift and our exile from, and extinction as a species on our home planet would never get elected, and what support they did get would border on non existent.

  15. Dear SaLuSa,

    I have a different perspective on the direction that our civilization is going to take, and our future is going to manifest on this planet, than the one described in your contact messages.

    I don’t think that there’s going to be a dimensional shift at this time, or that there are going to be mass arrests or interim governments leading to mass landings and our exile and the omnicide of our civilization. Because there’s no proof of anything like that happening that conforms with the scientific method and judicial evidence available in the public domain, or that I’ve seen privately. I’ve watched enough movies in my minds eye to know not to pay much attention to that stuff. It doesn’t do anything for me, and I avoid it most of the time. If people want to place a lot of importance to that stuff, it’s their life, I don’t.

    You also haven’t provided any credible proof that our civilization lacks viability, and there is a lot of proof that it is. I can remember “light workers” freaking out over a leaking oil well in the Gulf of Mexico like it was some type of end of the world situation. End timers, doomers and gloomers have always been a tiny fringe element in our societies for thousands of years. But they never provide proof to support their contentions.

    The direction that I do think that our civilization is going is an end to war and our obtaining starships for public use so that we can become an extraterrestrial civilization like you. Once that’s done, then we’ll figure out where to go from there. There isn’t going to be a divisive disruptive separation of our race here, other then those who want to go someplace else emigrating. So if that’s what you’re referring to, then yes, I think that that will be part of our future.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  16. Dear Vashtar,

    My plan is different from the PAO plan, and my plan is implementable here, and the PAO plan isn’t. It sounds like the PAO plan is changing and moving closer to what my plan is like. That’s a good thing, because it shows that there may be hope in working something out that we can agree to here.

    Technology can transform our civilization into something very different, the question is, what should that be? That question is best answered by determining what technology is available. This is what I’m interested in finding out by traveling up to your ships, and visiting your home world.

    The fire that I was in Monday, and the costs associated with dealing with it, are going to modify my camping trip up to the natural spaceport this week, but not stop it.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

  17. Dear SaLuSa,

    I just booked a load that completes near the port area. It’s the first one since I started running up in the mountains before Christmas where everything has worked out. It’s a pretty remote area, there’s not a lot of freight going up there. I’ll be empty on Monday, book a motel room, go through my gear, and unless something changes, which it probably isn’t going to, I’ll make it to the LZ next week sometime.

    Happy Easter,

    SC

  18. Dear Vashtar,

    Four riders, especially if they were fairly light weight, with 4 pack animals, could bring their personal gear and weapons, plus if the circumstances warranted it, like a ship went down, or there were hostiles on the ground or in the air, which has been known to happen here on occasion, or something else occurred, could also bring a light Gatling gun, a heavy machine gun, and a light cannon for mobile weapons positions, up to the natural spaceport to secure the area and LZ.

    This would allow 3 people to man weapons stations, and one to float, if there were problems, until HALO, air cavalry or other reinforcements arrived, or they made it out alive on their own, if they could.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

  19. Dear SaLuSa,

    There is no proof for your mass arrest plan, you’re in the same category as David Wilcox and Benjamin Fulford, which is not very good company in my opinion, and all of your 2012 prognosticating is discrediting you as month after month passes by and nothing happens. People resigning from the financial industry isn’t proof of anything other than the normal ebb and flow of life here. Right now it all looks like the same old hype that it’s always been.

    You’re right about one thing, there are truth bringers and way showers on the internet ushering in the new age, and I’m one of them. And the truth that I bring isn’t pretty, but it is the truth, and it is a message of peace, hope and progress. And I have proof to back it up, that I’ve provided privately. And that I’m capable of providing publicly when I’m ready, and have better proof, which I’m actively working on obtaining.

    I’m willing to work with you, because your heart is in the right place. But I’m not going to advocate the black death of 93% of humanity, or the extinction of our species on our home planet, to mitigate your contingent security liabilities.

    We’re the masters of our own destiny and the stewards of creation here, not you. We need to get the wars stopped, the quarantine lifted, spaceports open, poverty and pollution eliminated, lifespans extended, and relations normalized with reasonable, compatible ET civilizations. The GFL doesn’t qualify at this time as a reasonable compatible civilization, because they want us dead and extinct on our home planet. But if you are the quarantine ETs, then we at least have to work with you to get the quarantine lifted, so that we don’t have to fight a war of liberation against the prison planet ET oppressors.

    So my suggestion is to stop being so unreasonable, and start working with us rather than against us.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  20. Dear SaLuSa,

    There is no proof for the things that you say. Yes, peace is progressing and war is being resisted. But we’re doing that, even if some democracies and their voters want war, others don’t. And there are those in the war democracies, that don’t want war, and are working against the majority of voters there who want war.

    We’re developing into an extraterrestrial civilization with extended lifespans on a pollution free, prosperous planet, you can be part of this if you’re reasonable. Demanding our exile and extinction as a species on our home planet, and the annihilation of our civilization as the price for our becoming an extraterrestrial civilization is unreasonable, and the vast majority of us reject that. If those are the conditions for being involved with the GFL, then they’re unacceptable.

    The only thing that we need to be involved with the GFL for is getting the quarantine against our planet lifted. Other than that, we have no need to be involved with you. We’re not good enough for you according to what you write, so there’s no need for us to bother you if that’s the way that you feel. We’ll work with other non GFL civilizations who will treat us properly and won’t make unreasonable demands of us. So that we can extend our lifespans, eliminate poverty and pollution here, and travel the universe on starships.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  21. Dear SaLuSa,

    2012 is coming and going uneventfully, the only changes manifesting that there is proof and evidence of, are the ones that people here are bringing about.

    There is no conclusive legitimate scientific proof and judicial quality evidence of the things that people claiming to be special light workers, more advanced than the rest of humanity, say is occurring as part of their new age program that the rest of humanity should take their word for it without proof because they say so. Like mass landings, the end times, a dimensional shift, the omnicide of our civilization, prosperity programs, mass arrests, extinguishment of our birth rights to exile people from their home planet, the extinction of our species here, nesara, interim governments, ETs solving our problems for us, etc., etc..

    When you point these obvious facts out to them that they don’t want to hear, and disprove their disinfo, some of the more aggressive fanatical ones exhibiting symptoms of hallucination and other psychiatric maladies, engage in antisocial behavior towards the truth bringers and the web sites that the truth about the real new age are being brought forth on, that there is a lot of proof of, not the one that they’re proclaiming but have no supporting proof or evidence of, to offend people, poison the web sites with their negativity, and suppress and drive the truth away.

    I’m interested in helping people to have better lives and in creating a better future here by telling them the truth and not misleading people the way that some antisocial people exhibiting symptoms of psychiatric illness describing themselves as “light workers” do with disinfo and unproven information that they claim is true, but are unwilling or unable to verify, and become hostile and insulting when asked to do so. And make unsubstantiated false accusations against people telling the truth and exposing their fallacies to distract attention from there own poor behavior, and spiritual immaturity.

    My goals are getting the wars stopped, the quarantine lifted, importing starships to travel the universe, and safe vetted medical and industrial technology for the elimination of poverty and pollution here. And developing our planet into an extraterrestrial civilization in a safe peaceful manner by integrating with other reasonable compatible extraterrestrial civilizations. And providing emigration opportunities for those who want them.

    Your Friend,

    SC

    • “The bid to overthrow Syria’s government is over, and the battle now is to secure stability, foreign ministry spokesman Jihad Makdisi said in a report by state media on Saturday.

      “The battle to topple the state is over, and the battle to solidify stability… and move on towards a renewed Syria has begun,” Makdisi was cited as saying by the official SANA news agency. …

      Makdisi also said he Syrian army will withdraw from urban areas “once peace and security prevail.”

      “The presence of the Syrian Arab army in Syrian cities is for defensive purposes (so) as to protect the civilians,” Makdisi said.

      “Once peace and security prevail, the army is to pull out,” he added. …

      The Syrian army, deployed heavily across the country, is far superior in terms of numbers and firepower than the rebel fighters, and has bombarded pockets of resistance in cities such as Homs and Idlib, with devastating consequences.

      In other news, Al Arabiya obtained a copy of a letter by Syria’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations General Assembly, Bashar al-Jaafari, addressed to the President of the U.N. Security Council.

      In the letter Jaafari, writes that a total of 6143 people have died since the Syrian uprising began a year ago. Among those are over 2,000 members of the Syrian armed forces.”

      Source – http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/31/204369.html

      This is how I thought that this would play out, if a similar approach had been used in Libya, there would have been a lot less death, destruction and deprivation there. And people there would be experiencing a much higher standard of living and quality of life than they are now or are likely to anytime soon. The country is being looted by the NATO/GCC elements that forced this war on humanity and violated international law and the UN Charter in the process.

      It’s unfortunate that anyone was killed or injured in Syria, and the Syrian government allowed demonstrations until they turned into criminal civil disobedience and violence. But the way that it was handled avoided a much worse war that would have had a lot more injury, death, destruction and deprivation. Russia and China should have never approved the sanctions and “no fly zone” against Libya which led to the war. I told them at the time what was going to happen, which is what did happen. Which is why they wouldn’t approve them against Syria, because NATO and the GCC can’t be trusted, and are only interested in regime change, conquest and exploitation, not peace and prosperity.

      This experience needs to be built upon to avoid further war in the future, and to get the Afghan war stopped so that we can have peace on this planet, get the purported GFL quarantine lifted, and normalize relations with reasonable compatible ETs so that we can transition into becoming an extraterrestrial civilization with starships and extended lifespans on a prosperous, pollution free planet. Without being forced from, or going extinct on, our home planet in the process.

  22. Dear SaLuSa,

    The only things that we need to become galactic and universal beings that I’m aware of are starships and for the quarantine of our planet to be lifted. Not ascension, mass landings, a dimensional shift or GFL membership. If a small minority of people here want those things, they can go to places where they already exist without disturbing our civilization or violating peoples rights and freedoms here. I think that you’ll find that that’s the general consensus of most of the powers that be and citizenry here.

    I hear where you’re coming from about the other topics that you’ve addressed in your post today, and most people here understand the concepts that you’re trying to convey. This is our planet and civilization and we’ve earned the right to become an extraterrestrial civilization by bringing our civilization to it’s current state of development to allow us to get off of the planet and travel to other solar systems without getting involved in the grand design that you’re promoting and all of the crimes against humanity and violations of our freedoms, human and civil rights that it contains. If that doesn’t work for you we don’t have a problem avoiding you and all of the crime that you want to subject us to, and being involved with other races and civilizations to obtain extended life spans, the elimination of poverty and pollution here, and starships to travel the universe, as long as it’s safe to do so. If you don’t want to be involved with us without subjecting us to violations of universal law, you don’t have to be, sooner or later we’ll find other more reasonable civilizations to integrate with. This is probably the reason that there’s been no official disclosure, and you’re not being publicly allowed on our planet, because your demands are viewed as unreasonable.

    I see no legitimate evidence to support your contention that there are pending changes to our civilization about to manifest themselves, other than the stabilization of the security situation here. And if you’re involved with that we appreciate it, though I’ve seen no proof that you are, and a lot of proof that people like me are doing the heavy lifting in this matter. And that you may be trying to take credit for our achievements to lend legitimacy to your activities that would be misplaced.

    I understand that you may be able to help us to progress faster with your assistance than without it. But if it comes at the cost of our freedoms and rights, most people here would rather that we look elsewhere for opportunities and assistance to avoid being victimized. The conduct of some of the people claiming to be your direct representatives, who are advocating criminality against us, is belligerent and antisocial, and a lot of people here don’t like their behavior or want to be involved with you because of it.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  23. Dear Vashtar,

    I’ve noticed a persistent improvement in the tone and content of the PAO updates over the past two years from dark and depressing to up beat, positive and rational.

    I can see from the scope of your activities described in these updates that you’re trying to take a comprehensive approach to your anticipated role in our development into an extraterrestrial civilization. Whether we choose to accept you as potential integration partners remains to be seen. It looks to me like the arms length, 10 foot barge pole approach are 2 sides of the same coin. You’re hiding behind your technology, and the powers that be here, including a large and vibrant non dark cabal, non earth ally faction that I’m part of. Are telling you that we’re not interested in the more objectionable parts of your plans, and we’re not going to allow you openly on our planet under those circumstances. I’m referring to mass landings, the omnicide of our civilization, and a disruptive dimensional shift.

    If you’d like to demonstrate the advantages of full consciousness, than normalize relations with us without a lot of unreasonable preconditions like the ones that I’ve listed above. There’s only one precondition that we need to agree upon for our mutual benefit, and that’s an end to war here so that the quarantine can be lifted without a risk of us exporting hostilities into space. I personally have little interest in full consciousness, and no interest in mass landings or a dimensional shift. And I venture to surmise that that’s a prevalent view amongst many people here. For people here who are interested in those things, they can go to places where they already exist without violating other peoples rights and freedoms here. What I and many others are interested in is extended life spans, a prosperous pollution free planet, and starships to safely travel the universe on.

    Once we develop into an extraterrestrial civilization and see what our options are. If we’re interested in obtaining your help in developing full consciousness and facilitating a dimensional shift here, we’ll let you know.

    Your Friend and Partner,

    SC

  24. Dear SaLuSa,

    The only thing that we need to become galactic beings are starships to travel the universe with, and for the quarantine to be lifted so that we can use them. My experience with some people who claim to be great light workers much more advanced than the rest of humanity, is that they suffer from antisocial personality disorders, who don’t tell the truth, who hate the truth, and who can be very rude, insulting and obnoxious to people who tell the truth that they don’t want to hear, and point it out to them.

    Truth, light, spirituality and morality all go together. It’s pretty irritating to be lectured by people who don’t practice what they preach when you do. So I don’t think that it’s just the dark cabal who has room for improvement, so do some self proclaimed high profile “light workers”.

    The dark cabal aren’t the only ones deliberately pushing for wars, so are a lot of voters, it’s in all of the elections and polls for any objective observer to see. Voting patterns need to and are changing for the better.

    I agree that the 150 year old industrial age paradigm is morphing into something new, what that is going to be has still yet to be conclusively determined. This is our planet not yours, and we’re going to take this civilization in the direction that we want it to go. If we can work something out with you, great, if not, you have to defer to our wishes as long as we’re not doing anything wrong. That’s the way that the system works. We haven’t spent 10,000 years building it from scratch just to circular file it in the dust bin of history when we’re on the cusp of transitioning into an extraterrestrial civilization because you want it gone and replaced with something new of your, not our design. If some people here don’t like it, once the quarantine is lifted they can leave and everyone can go their own way.

    If you’re currently working with progressive elements here like me to get the wars stopped, that’s wonderful, because it means that you’re putting your money where your mouth is. It wasn’t that long ago that you were cheering on the violence and playing right into the hands of the war mongers. If you’re turned over a new leaf and come over to the side of peace and progress, good for you, that’s the right thing to do.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  25. Dear SaLuSa,

    There is a third element present present on this planet in politics and security that I’m part of and help lead, that is neither dark cabal or earth ally. And your a smart person to be reading my work and considering my suggestions. Because they’re not self promoting and are simply common sense solutions to move our civilization forward in a positive manner that I know from experience have wide support by the third element and much of the public here.

    This third element here is collectively bigger and stronger than either your earth allies or the dark cabal, and the progress that’s been made during the industrial age has largely been led and managed by us. Your not taking our civilization in a direction that don’t want to go, because we’ll resist your efforts and I don’t think that you can over power us without violating universal law, at which point we’ll ask for and probably receive help. At which point you’re going to have a big mess on your hands. I don’t want to go there if something better can be worked out. Which is what I’m trying to help you with.

    The direction that we want to go at this time is integration and our development into an extraterrestrial civilization ourselves, without the omnicide of our civilization and exile from our home planet of our people here. We don’t want to go there. We’ll look at ascension and consider incorporating it into our plans for those who want it. If you don’t want us as part of your federation because we’re not good enough for you in our current form. That’s OK, the universe is a big place and as long as we find reasonable, compatible civilizations to integrate with to achieve extended life spans, the elimination of poverty and pollution here, and the obtainment of starships. And we conduct ourselves as responsible law abiding space citizens, that’s all that matters.

    Your Friend,

    SC

  26. Dear SaLuSa,

    If you’ve stopped the use of nuclear weapons here, that’s a good thing. Your statements about our planet being some type of gem in the crown that others have coveted doesn’t surprise me given our history and lives. I know first hand what it’s evidently like to deal with bad ETs. I’m sure that they’ve been a significant contributing cause of our problems. You’re in our airspace without permission, and as we improve our weapons technology we’re pushing back the ET encroachment. The direction that we need to move in, is for an approved ET presence in a legal structure for the obtainment of medical and industrial technology, and cultural exchanges.

    The fact that we’re a sequestered civilization is a two edged sword, yes we haven’t been overtly taken over, but we’ve also been denied a lot of the good things that being involved with extraterrestrial civilizations can provide, some of which you elaborated on in your post today.

    The past is behind us, as imperfect and conflicted as it is. We should learn from it but not dwell on it excessively. What’s important is the future and developing into an extraterrestrial civilization ourselves. This doesn’t require a dimensional shift or collective or planetary ascension. It just requires an end to war and lifting the quarantine and obtaining starships and being good space citizens. We’re quite capable of making as much or more progress over the next 150 years of the integration age, if it even takes us that long, as we did over the past 150 years of the industrial age. This is our planet and civilization to develop as we see fit.

    Most people here aren’t interested in a disruptive dimensional shift at this time, they’re interested in extended lifespans and the elimination of poverty and pollution, and being able to safely travel the universe on starships to see what it’s like. Not being told that they need to relocate so that our civilization can be destroyed, or go through a biological catharsis. Once we successfully integrate into interstellar civilization and become one ourselves, a consensus may develop for more extensive changes, I don’t think that it exists at this time.

    Your Friend,

    SC

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